Marc Andreessen: Why Perfect Products Become Obsolete

Marc Andreessen: Why Perfect Products Become Obsolete

a16z Podcast · 2025-08-08
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In this episode, Marc Andreessen joins TBPN for an unfiltered conversation spanning everything from ads in LLMs to why Apple’s AI strategy may be risky for anyone not named Apple.

Marc breaks down the current state of AI: why open source is resurging, how foundational research is (or isn’t) turning into product, and whether we’ve hit the moment when phones start to fade as dominant platforms. He also shares his candid thoughts on Meta’s wearable wins, Vision Pro’s imperfections, and how humor and deep research are his two favorite use cases for AI today.

Timecodes:

0:00 Intro

2:41 The Pace of AI and Technology Cycles

4:03 Research vs. Productization in AI Companies

5:15 Apple’s Strategy: Last Mover Advantage

7:09 The Future Beyond Smartphones

10:23 Open Source AI: Progress and Challenges

13:49 Ads in AI: Business Models and User Experience

15:52 Legal Frameworks for AI and Data

17:53 Lightning Round: How Mark Uses AI

19:01 Breaking into Venture Capital in 2025

20:34 M&A, Survivorship Bias, and Company Resilience

Resources

Watch TBPN: https://www.tbpn.com/

Marc on X: https://x.com/pmarca

Marc’s Substack: https://pmarca.substack.com/

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